diff --git a/r2/r2/controllers/front.py b/r2/r2/controllers/front.py
index 4e2bccee9..4e0148736 100644
--- a/r2/r2/controllers/front.py
+++ b/r2/r2/controllers/front.py
@@ -650,9 +650,7 @@ class FrontController(RedditController):
         href = comment.make_permalink_slow(context=5, anchor=True)
         return self.redirect(href)
 
-    @validate(VUser(), 
-              VSRSubmitPage(),
-              url = VRequired('url', None),
+    @validate(url = VRequired('url', None),
               title = VRequired('title', None),
               then = VOneOf('then', ('tb','comments'), default = 'comments'))
     def GET_submit(self, url, title, then):
@@ -670,6 +668,12 @@ class FrontController(RedditController):
                                  infotext = infotext).render()
                 return res
 
+        if not c.user_is_loggedin:
+            raise UserRequiredException
+
+        if not (c.default_sr or c.site.can_submit(c.user)):
+            self.abort(403, "forbidden")
+
         captcha = Captcha() if c.user.needs_captcha() else None
         sr_names = (Subreddit.submit_sr_names(c.user) or
                     Subreddit.submit_sr_names(None))
diff --git a/r2/r2/controllers/validator/validator.py b/r2/r2/controllers/validator/validator.py
index ff8180fe8..8504e6ae4 100644
--- a/r2/r2/controllers/validator/validator.py
+++ b/r2/r2/controllers/validator/validator.py
@@ -687,11 +687,6 @@ class VSrSpecial(VByName):
                 return True
         abort(403,'forbidden')
 
-class VSRSubmitPage(Validator):
-    def run(self):
-        if not (c.default_sr or c.user_is_loggedin and 
-                c.site.can_submit(c.user)):
-            abort(403, "forbidden")
 
 class VSubmitParent(VByName):
     def run(self, fullname, fullname2):